Battlestar Galactica 403: He That Believeth in Me open thread (COMMENTS CONTAIN SPOILERS)
What did you think of Friday's episode? Please discuss in the comments!
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I don't see how Starbuck could be anything other than a Cylon. Unless the Cylons have transporters and beamed her off her ship before it exploded.
Posted by:Jacqueline | April 09, 2008 at 05:45 PM
My theory was Ellen. Here's my thinking:
Billy Adama - can't be, he didn't hear the music, plus that'd make Lee the original half-breed.
Roslin - Yes she heard the music but that was because she now has cylon blood
Lee - no music
Gaius - no music plus cop out
Helo - no music plus has a half-breed baby
Calli - ditto from above
Starbuck - has a mom, plus why would the cylons steal her ovary if she was one of them?
No, it's Ellen, and that's going to throw Saul for a loop over his loyalty. I mean he fought the Cylons in two wars and lost his now cylon wife for a loyalty he never should have had?
Posted by:Scorpius | April 09, 2008 at 05:55 PM
"Starbuck - has a mom, plus why would the cylons steal her ovary if she was one of them?"
She has a *memory* of a mom. But all the other Cylons who think they are humans have memories of families as well.
Posted by:Jacqueline | April 09, 2008 at 05:57 PM
But, if she is, can I have a copy?
Posted by:Scorpius | April 09, 2008 at 05:58 PM
Also, the Cylons would steal her ovary because they thought she was human. Remember, the Cylons themselves don't know who the Final Five are. So just because the Cylons treated Starbuck as human doesn't mean she isn't a Cylon.
Posted by:Jacqueline | April 09, 2008 at 07:57 PM
How can Starbuck not be a Cylon? I guess she could be some kind of other chosen one of the gods. But clearly something wacky happened, and the simplest explanation for something being wacky is that she's one of the final five.
On the other hand, the very fact that she seems to obviously be a Cylon may argue against it. I mean, plot twists increase drama, and BSG loves drama.
Posted by:Patri Friedman | April 09, 2008 at 08:11 PM
Someone please remind me which of the humans were exposed to the Cylon disease (and didn't get sick) because all of those people would have to be eliminated from consideration as the last Cylon, right? IIRC, the only reason Sharon/Athena was immune was her half-human pregnancy.
Posted by:Jacqueline | April 09, 2008 at 09:18 PM
"Helo - no music plus has a half-breed baby
Calli - ditto from above"
Actually I think that either of them are possible Cylons. The revalation that one of the two kids may not be a half-breed but full blooded Cylon would be quite the bombshell, as it was previously thought that Cylons could not reproduce sexually, without a human.
Posted by:Shawn Levasseur | April 09, 2008 at 09:52 PM
Starbuck went through a wormhole, obviously. The reason no one suspected that is because the only scientist they had around was Baltar, and he's busy feeling the presence of God with horny cultists.
Posted by:Philip Welch | April 10, 2008 at 06:22 AM
IIRC, her ship was destroyed in a fiery explosion.
Posted by:Jacqueline | April 10, 2008 at 06:41 AM
By the way, Starbuck being a Cylon is too obvious. They wouldn't drag it out like this if she actually was a Cylon.
Posted by:Philip Welch | April 10, 2008 at 06:44 AM
Maybe she's an extra SPECIAL Cylon!
Actually my theory about the show is that they don't really plan the plot out very far in advance, they just come up with ideas as they go along and then try to fit them in around what came before.
Posted by:Jacqueline | April 10, 2008 at 07:00 AM
They plan out a season at a time or so. In retrospect the Season 3 premiere telegraphed the Tigh is a Cylon thing pretty well. And I suspect they knew from Maelstrom on what was actually going on with Starbuck.
Starbuck being a Cylon is too easy and obvious at this point.
Posted by:Philip Welch | April 10, 2008 at 11:13 AM
John McCain is the final Cylon!
http://cmpalmer.blogspot.com/2008/03/john-mccain-is-he-cylon.html
BTW, Hi Phil.
Posted by:Scorpius | April 10, 2008 at 11:36 AM
BTW, it was a fork not chopsticks.
*runz*
Posted by:Scorpius | April 10, 2008 at 11:43 AM
Ha ha, I noticed the resemblance too! I wrote it off as caused by watching too much damn politics during the writers strike.
Posted by:Jacqueline | April 10, 2008 at 11:44 AM
Is it just me or was Starbuck too obviously pulling a Sharon in the last scene? If she just makes a speech, says "see, if I were bad wouldn't I have killed you already?" and hands the gun back it better be a darned *good* speech...
Now that they aren't saying "and they have a plan" any more, what exactly WAS the plan?
Posted by:Glen Raphael | April 10, 2008 at 12:14 PM
Hi, Scorpius.
Yeah, back in the miniseries I was like, "Dude, Col. Tigh looks just like John McCain". And now Col. Tigh is a grizzled, disabled old ex-POW like John McCain too. Just imagine, if the early Season 2 story arc was running right now, BSG would be accused of interfering in the election!
Posted by:Philip Welch | April 10, 2008 at 09:03 PM
The next episode streams at scifi.com in less than an hour. I hope you have an open thread by then :)
Posted by:Philip Welch | April 11, 2008 at 08:09 AM